The problems of Carrying Weapons in Purses or Other Bags

carrying weaponsMy wife and I have had this talk on several occasions, about different ways of carrying weapons.  She has a tendency to default to her purse.  One principle always applies whether you are talking about a firearm, pepper spray, knife or a club.  The weapon is only useful if you can get it into operation quickly when attacked.

The other day I read about a female police officer who had her purse snatched.  She lost her firearm, because the mugger ran up behind her and grabbed her purse.  She had no time to react and lost her firearm and got into trouble at work.  It was against department policy to not have the weapon on your body.

If you are leaving your home with a weapon it needs to be on your body and easily accessible.  I see women that carry prepper spray attached to their key rings.  The problem with this is that their keys spent most of their time buried deep in their purses.

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Pepper spray that is attached to keys ends up buried in purses or pockets.

Now don’t think that this is just a women problem, I see men making the same mistakes.  They have a weapon in their car and leave it there when they get out.  Weapons are also stored in backpacks or other bags or briefcases.

To be useful a weapon of any kind needs to be easily accessible and at the same time hidden to make it harder for someone to take it from you.  Uniformed police officers wear their firearms in exposed holsters, but they are trained in weapon retention and the holsters normally have some type of retention device.

If you are carrying weapons of any kind, make sure that you are carrying them legally. Now I am not going to try to tell you what type of firearm or holster to carry, there are many different factors that go into determining what is best for you.  I suggest that you find some locally that is qualified to help you.  If you choose to carry pepper spray here is a post that may help you,  Pepper Spray- How to Choose it and How to Use it

But whatever you carry make sure that you can easily access it while defending yourself and under stress.  Any type of weapon is only useful if you can use it.

Howard

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5 Responses to The problems of Carrying Weapons in Purses or Other Bags

  1. john says:

    And get some good training with whatever you buy. I work in a gunshop and have talked to many folks who think that just because they have a gun, all is well, or buy a gun and defense ammo and no practice ammo, or talk about the gun they bought last month,(or year) and haven’t shot it yet. This post is about one of the hardest items to select, a carry system for your firearm. Thanks for the insight.

  2. Ed Harris says:

    An occasional, but rare problem is a gun or holster setting off an anti-theft alarm. There are several types of “loss protection” systems on the market, which may be either magnetic, acoustic-magnetic, or radio frequency identification, an application of a tank circuit or “dip meter.”

    One of the common RFID detectors is Sensormatic and the oddest things may set them off. RFID tags on employee badges and key cards are the most common problems, but a coiled telephone earphone is also known to have set them off, as well as laser-cut decorative zipper pulls, intricate metal earrings, or even a pocket of paperclips!

    Diagnosing “false positives” is a common problem. While not the usual practice a few firearms manufactures have experimented with RFID tags for automated inventorying; one in particular got into trouble for doing so, and since then I haven’t heard of any other gun companies applying them to the guns themselves, but only to their boxes.

    I am not aware of false positives being caused by the presence of a firearm, when such an alarm occurs it was because the person was carrying something else which is activated. But all the more reason NOT to try to sneak a gun into a place where it is prohibited by the management, — especially if you’ve bought new shoes recently!

    • Hildegard says:

      You’re going to let some LP schmuck frisk or detain you?

      • Your a fool, if you fight with that LP, regardless of the situation. A simple false positive, could turn into. Armed robbery gig, when the police show up.

        Better to cooperate, go to security, and do the dog and pony show. Leave and never come back.

        About ten years ago, while on duty, I had a similar situation happen. I responded to Fred Meyer, a guy had been in a fight with security, who had attempted to take him into custody for alledged shop lifting.

        Turns out the gentleman did not steal anything, his CCW, triggered the machine. Long story short, the man was aghast at being called a thief.

        He refused to comply with requests to walk to security, started a fist fight, ending up in him drawing his gat.

        911 reports an escalation of a simple shop lift to an armed robbery.

        I arrive, the man does the right thing, placing his pistol on the ground. During a search incident to arrest, it’s determined that he DID NOT steal anything.

        I’m thinking ” this sucks” protocol requires the seizing of the weapon, a citation, not physical arrest, for assault III, a report to the DA, for review.

        I walked the report to the DA, and asked for no prosecution, as the security guards started this event, with heavy handed tactics, and poor judgement.

        Not only did the DA, charge the man, they bumped the charge to ARMED ROBBERY, a class A felony.

        I strongly dis agreed with this case period. The only thing that saved this decent citizen was prior to the court proceeding, I asked the defense attorney to ask me, about the security crew at this specific store.

        He did, and I was able to tell the jury, that this security crew was responsible for multiple escalations of their powers of citizen arrest.

        That pulling a gun wasn’t a smart move, however this mans crime was failing to comply with a poorly trained security guard, who started the event with a false accusation, and ended with an innocent man being in court, and having to spend thousands of dollars defending his self.

        The man was found not guilty, his weapon was eventually returned. I was Beefed by the ADA, for torpedoing her case.

        And I filed a BAR complaint regarding the ADA’s actions, for multiple poor conduct issues. As an officer of the courts, We The People deserve better from our District Attorney’s prosecuting staff.

        The moral of the story is, that ADA, isn’t practicing law anymore, the man falsely charged has his life back, and is a much wiser CCW recipient. The security crew were eventually fired for their poor choices, and multiple escalations of minor issues.

        And I’m happily retired.

        Respectfully,
        Dirk Williams

  3. Outpost75 says:

    Thanks for the validation and reality check, Dirk Williams!

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